Asked to respond to a complaint for unfounded banning, Kimmer blatantly LIES to the Attorney General of California, and fabricates false records to support the lies!
I don't think that was a smart thing to do, Heidi. It is obvious that you have a hard time telling the truth but, come on, lying to the Attorney General?
The story in a nutshell:
Magicsmom joined Kimkins on 06/11/2006. Her last post on kimkins.com is dated 2006/09/30. Proof in the form of a screen shot of her Kimkins profile:
Hey, did you see that she was last active on 2008-01-08? Amazing! Magicsmom must really have magic powers.
She was banned on 10/07/2007 due to "TOS" violation, and wrote about it here on LCF. As for most of us, no explicit reason was provided by Kimkins. We were just shown the TOS violation screen when trying to log in to kimkins.com. Of course, no refund was given.
Magicmom wrote a complaint to Edmund G. Brown, Attorney General, Department of Justice, State of California. The complaint was forwarded to kimkins.com and this is Heidi's response:
December 28, 2007
State of California
Office of the Attorney General
Department of Justice
Public Inquiry Unit
P. O. Box 944255 Sacramento,
REF: Complaint ID#XXXXXX
To Whom It May Concern:
We are aware of a lawsuit against Kimkins.com. We expect there may be frivolous complaints made against Kimkins in preparation. There is no certified class action lawsuit.
Due to Ms. "Magicsmom's" engaging in malicious, disparaging and false accusations within the forum area of the website, she has been restricted from community discussion areas. She still retains full usage of the Kimkins weight loss program including the diet, diet variations, food list, grocery shopping lists, recipe library, BMI calculator, calorie calculator and other diet aids.
Please see attached documentation fo the comments made by Ms. "Magicsmom" which was upsetting to other members and interfered with their right to enjoy their membership.
Thank you for bringing this matter to our attention. Please contact us if we may be of further assistance.
Kimkins Customer Service
"Engaging in malicious, disparaging and false accusations within the forum area?" Magicsmom last posted on kimkins.com on 09/30/2006!
And the proof? The attached documentation? This is the screen shot of the administration area on kimkins.com that was provided as proof:
The date given for the ban is 2007-10-07, which Magicsmom agrees with. (Last visit is 2007-12-17, guess they didn't even try to explain that one). However, what about the "reason?" The text is directly copied from a post on LCF, made 2 weeks after she was banned, on 10-20-2007 !
How can Heidi even pretend that this post that was "upsetting to other members" was posted "within the forum area?" Magicsmom did not have any access to the forum area at the time.
It is also obvious that the post is made after she has been banned. Notice the wording "after I was banned" in the post.
It is equally obvious that this post was not made "within the forum." Notice the wording "their site" and "here."
Kimmer needs to proof read a little better when she is fabricating documents, especially when she is fabricating them for the Attorney General.
Other lies in her response are the claims of "she still retains full usage of the Kimkins weight loss program including the diet........" The letter from Kimkins was dated December 28, 2007. I do not remember the exact date when the "free" areas of the website disappeared but I believe it was well before the date of the letter and they are certainly not there now.
Kimmer was in trouble before, with the class action law suit in full swing. She is in even more trouble now. You don't lie to the Attorney General!
Magicsmom has written a very factual response to the Attorney General, providing proof of Heidi's lies with all the screen shots referenced above. John Tiedt has received a copy of all the documentation as well.
I want to thank Magicsmom for giving me access to all this information, and for her continued efforts of taking Kimkins.com down.
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HoneyBee thinks Kimmer deserves a Cheerleader Award for her achievement!
A clarification by Magicsmom:
Please let me clarify how there can be activity on my profile at Kimkins. Heidi did tell the truth that I am able to get into certain areas of the website if I log on. So it is entirely possible that I visited her home page early in January. After all, like many others, I am awaiting with baded breath the weekly updates on Heidi's weight loss.
However, the access Heidi described to the Attorney General is not what I was promised when I signed up. My "lifetime" membership was supposed to give me the following benefits (thanks to Wayback Machine for this info!)
o Detailed info about the Kimkins plan, straight from the source!
o Personalized Kimkins coaching, direct from Kimmer!
o Unlimited access to Kimkins.com forums for inspiration, guidance and friendship
o Your own personal journal for posting progress photos, notes and thoughts
o A free copy of the Kimkins e-Book due out soon!
Well, let's break this down. I can't get information from the source because I've been banished from her royal highness' presence. I don't have access to personalized coaching, unlimited access to the forums, or access to a personal journal. The "e-book" I got would more appropriately be called an "e-page infomercial for Kimkins". (Remember the old "the computer ate my homework" story we got from Heidi?)
Because I committed no infraction on Kimkins.com, they banned me unjustly and breached the contract I had with Kimkins. If I had committed a legitimate infraction, Heidi would not have had to tap dance and make up a lie for the Attorney General. And I wonder how many others there are who have the same story I have. Reality is that Heidi was stalking people around the internet and banning them not for what they did at Kimkins, but for what they did and said on other websites. If Heidi thinks she will never hear from the Attorney General again, she'd better sit up and take notice. They ARE on her case, whether she acknowledges that or not.