Asked to respond to a complaint for unfounded banning, Kimmer blatantly LIES to the Attorney General of California, and fabricates false records to support the lies!
I don't think that was a smart thing to do, Heidi. It is obvious that you have a hard time telling the truth but, come on, lying to the Attorney General?
The story in a nutshell:
Magicsmom joined Kimkins on 06/11/2006. Her last post on kimkins.com is dated 2006/09/30. Proof in the form of a screen shot of her Kimkins profile:
Hey, did you see that she was last active on 2008-01-08? Amazing! Magicsmom must really have magic powers.
She was banned on 10/07/2007 due to "TOS" violation, and wrote about it here on LCF. As for most of us, no explicit reason was provided by Kimkins. We were just shown the TOS violation screen when trying to log in to kimkins.com. Of course, no refund was given.
Magicmom wrote a complaint to Edmund G. Brown, Attorney General, Department of Justice, State of California. The complaint was forwarded to kimkins.com and this is Heidi's response:
December 28, 2007
State of California
Office of the Attorney General
Department of Justice
Public Inquiry Unit
P. O. Box 944255 Sacramento,
CA 94244-2550
REF: Complaint ID#XXXXXX
To Whom It May Concern:
We are aware of a lawsuit against Kimkins.com. We expect there may be frivolous complaints made against Kimkins in preparation. There is no certified class action lawsuit.
Due to Ms. "Magicsmom's" engaging in malicious, disparaging and false accusations within the forum area of the website, she has been restricted from community discussion areas. She still retains full usage of the Kimkins weight loss program including the diet, diet variations, food list, grocery shopping lists, recipe library, BMI calculator, calorie calculator and other diet aids.
Please see attached documentation fo the comments made by Ms. "Magicsmom" which was upsetting to other members and interfered with their right to enjoy their membership.
Thank you for bringing this matter to our attention. Please contact us if we may be of further assistance.
Sincerely,
Kimkins Customer Service
"Engaging in malicious, disparaging and false accusations within the forum area?" Magicsmom last posted on kimkins.com on 09/30/2006!
And the proof? The attached documentation? This is the screen shot of the administration area on kimkins.com that was provided as proof:
The date given for the ban is 2007-10-07, which Magicsmom agrees with. (Last visit is 2007-12-17, guess they didn't even try to explain that one). However, what about the "reason?" The text is directly copied from a post on LCF, made 2 weeks after she was banned, on 10-20-2007 !
How can Heidi even pretend that this post that was "upsetting to other members" was posted "within the forum area?" Magicsmom did not have any access to the forum area at the time.
It is also obvious that the post is made after she has been banned. Notice the wording "after I was banned" in the post.
It is equally obvious that this post was not made "within the forum." Notice the wording "their site" and "here."
Kimmer needs to proof read a little better when she is fabricating documents, especially when she is fabricating them for the Attorney General.
Other lies in her response are the claims of "she still retains full usage of the Kimkins weight loss program including the diet........" The letter from Kimkins was dated December 28, 2007. I do not remember the exact date when the "free" areas of the website disappeared but I believe it was well before the date of the letter and they are certainly not there now.
Kimmer was in trouble before, with the class action law suit in full swing. She is in even more trouble now. You don't lie to the Attorney General!
Magicsmom has written a very factual response to the Attorney General, providing proof of Heidi's lies with all the screen shots referenced above. John Tiedt has received a copy of all the documentation as well.
I want to thank Magicsmom for giving me access to all this information, and for her continued efforts of taking Kimkins.com down.
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A clarification by Magicsmom:
Please let me clarify how there can be activity on my profile at Kimkins. Heidi did tell the truth that I am able to get into certain areas of the website if I log on. So it is entirely possible that I visited her home page early in January. After all, like many others, I am awaiting with baded breath the weekly updates on Heidi's weight loss.
However, the access Heidi described to the Attorney General is not what I was promised when I signed up. My "lifetime" membership was supposed to give me the following benefits (thanks to Wayback Machine for this info!)
o Detailed info about the Kimkins plan, straight from the source!
o Personalized Kimkins coaching, direct from Kimmer!
o Unlimited access to Kimkins.com forums for inspiration, guidance and friendship
o Your own personal journal for posting progress photos, notes and thoughts
o A free copy of the Kimkins e-Book due out soon!
Well, let's break this down. I can't get information from the source because I've been banished from her royal highness' presence. I don't have access to personalized coaching, unlimited access to the forums, or access to a personal journal. The "e-book" I got would more appropriately be called an "e-page infomercial for Kimkins". (Remember the old "the computer ate my homework" story we got from Heidi?)
Because I committed no infraction on Kimkins.com, they banned me unjustly and breached the contract I had with Kimkins. If I had committed a legitimate infraction, Heidi would not have had to tap dance and make up a lie for the Attorney General. And I wonder how many others there are who have the same story I have. Reality is that Heidi was stalking people around the internet and banning them not for what they did at Kimkins, but for what they did and said on other websites. If Heidi thinks she will never hear from the Attorney General again, she'd better sit up and take notice. They ARE on her case, whether she acknowledges that or not.
Friday, January 25, 2008
Kimmer of Kimkins Lies to the Attorney General!
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I don't think Heidi is worried much by the AG. This was just a quick top of the head reply to keep him at bay while she continues to rake in moolah. The entire justice system doesn't evoke the same response from her that it would from a normal law-abiding citizen. Apparently the only thing that gets a speedy and sharp response is anything that will cost her money or income. What more can we say?
Please let me clarify how there can be activity on my profile at Kimkins. Heidi did tell the truth that I am able to get into certain areas of the website if I log on. So it is entirely possible that I visited her home page early in January. After all, like many others, I am awaiting with baded breath the weekly updates on Heidi's weight loss.
However, the access Heidi described to the Attorney General is not what I was promised when I signed up. My "lifetime" membership was supposed to give me the following benefits (thanks to Wayback Machine for this info!)
o Detailed info about the Kimkins plan, straight from the source!
o Personalized Kimkins coaching, direct from Kimmer!
o Unlimited access to Kimkins.com forums for inspiration, guidance and friendship
o Your own personal journal for posting progress photos, notes and thoughts
o A free copy of the Kimkins e-Book due out soon!
Well, let's break this down. I can't get information from the source because I've been banished from her royal highness' presence. I don't have access to personalized coaching, unlimited access to the forums, or access to a personal journal. The "e-book" I got would more appropriately be called an "e-page infomercial for Kimkins". (Remember the old "the computer ate my homework" story we got from Heidi?)
Because I committed no infraction on Kimkins.com, they banned me unjustly and breached the contract I had with Kimkins. If I had committed a legitimate infraction, Heidi would not have had to tap dance and make up a lie for the Attorney General. And I wonder how many others there are who have the same story I have. Reality is that Heidi was stalking people around the internet and banning them not for what they did at Kimkins, but for what they did and said on other websites. If Heidi thinks she will never hear from the Attorney General again, she'd better sit up and take notice. They ARE on her case, whether she acknowledges that or not.
Magics - Thanks for the clarification. I was not aware of it. I must have a special banning as i can not access anything more than the front page. Trying to log in just tells me "your membership is not yet activated," whatever that means. It doesn't allow me to log in to anything. Sorry, I wasn't aware that there were degrees of banning.
Mariasol, you got a special banning, you lucky girl!
Fantastic post, Mariasol!
Heidi made a fatal mistake with magicsmom. One of Heidi's many problems is that she thinks she's smarter than everyone else. Well, she's found out she's not as smart as magicsmom, now, hasn't she? I'm so glad magicsmom is going full throttle on this.
The AG will be going after Heidi like a dog with a bone as a result of her lies... and her blatant lies show that she's not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
I have a special banning as well. I never made any waves on KK other than inquiring who the new owners were. I was not the only one with this inquiry.
What is wrong with wanting to know who is running the show?
I wish Heidi's lawyer best of luck in getting paid.
I've always been a fan of Magicsmom on LCF.
I pity Heidi (nah, not really) with Magicsmom on the case. She can talk circles around that lying, scamming thief.
Thanks, Magic, for alerting the AG and for all you do in helping bring down that scammer and her dangerous Kimkins diet.
You GO girl!
You give yourself too much credit. The AG doesn't give a crap about a small fish like Heidi. You will see.
I totally agree with you, anonymous.
Now, if I were the AG who would I believe?
Kimmer, a sociopathic liar who continues to endanger the lives of people around the world with her trash diet...
OR
Magicsmom, an eloquent, honest, intelligent spokesperson who has been fighting to bring Kimmer to justice for a long, long time.
Hey, it's a no-brainer.
"Kimmer of Kimkins Lies to the Attorney General!"
Thanks for blogging about this!
Kimmer doesn't know what the truth is. Her whole life is one big lie.
I bet the Attorney General is going to throw the book at her for the con she pulled on Magicsmom.
No way Magicsmom is going to put up with Heidi's crap.
"Anonymous said...
You give yourself too much credit. The AG doesn't give a crap about a small fish like Heidi. You will see."
To Anonymous:
I'll tell you what's crap...your post.
Don't kid yourself that the AG isn't interested in the con Heidi pulled on magicsmom.
And calling Heidi a small fish? Ha! She's a big, honkin' blue whale and the AG's got the harpoon ready.
Just watch and see. And kudos to you, magicsmom, for taking this on.
Oh! I almost forgot! HI, HEIDI! Nice post.
My blog: Medusa
good for you magicsmom for correcting Kimmer's error to the AG.
Kimkins.com gets in deeper with every falsehood Kimmer sends out.
anonymous, you're SO wrong about the Attorney General's Department not being interested. I work in the AG's Department in another state, and I know this type of fraud is always fast-tracked.
Magicsmom's complaint will be reviewed and investigated thoroughly and expeditiously, and Ms. Diaz will face criminal charges. Ironically, she has sealed her own fate.
I'm the anonymous who left a comment at 11:43 AM.
I just want to clarify that I was agreeing with anonymous's post at 10:29 AM...NOT this post by that other "anonymous" at 11:18 AM...
"Anonymous said...
You give yourself too much credit. The AG doesn't give a crap about a small fish like Heidi. You will see.
January 26, 2008 11:18 AM"
That post at 11:18 AM is ridiculous.
"You give yourself too much credit. The AG doesn't give a crap about a small fish like Heidi. You will see."
I wouldn't know, I have never had any dealings with the AG. And as Medusa pointed out, Heidi is not "small fish" in any sense of the word. Defrauding 40,000 people is a serious matter IMO.
If nothing else, fabricating false documents supports the pattern of what's been going on at Kimkins and should help Tiedt's case.
Thanks, Mariasol for gathering this information and presenting it in an organized format.
Magicsmom, a special thanks to you for sharing your experience and for the time and energy you are spending to stop Kimmer
and shut down Kimkins.
"You give yourself too much credit. The AG doesn't give a crap about a small fish like Heidi. You will see."
No, YOU will see.
"Anonymous said...
I don't think Heidi is worried much by the AG. This was just a quick top of the head reply to keep him at bay while she continues to rake in moolah. The entire justice system doesn't evoke the same response from her that it would from a normal law-abiding citizen. Apparently the only thing that gets a speedy and sharp response is anything that will cost her money or income. What more can we say?
January 25, 2008 6:34 PM"
Heidi had better be worried about the AG. Edmund G. Brown is no one to mess with.
What I found interesting after the last TV interview with Christin was that there was not much talk at Kimkins about it and Christin's interview seems to have given Heidi some pause. Heidi's been keeping a low profile at the Kimpound since the interview.
I just wish we could get more people speaking out in the media (television and radio shows) about this horrendous diet and scam, and how it has affected them personally. Many were seriously hurt, both physically and emotionally, and those people, for the most part, have found it very difficult to talk about.
I can only hope that there will be a few who will step forward to tell their stories to put a face to the anonymous ex-Kimkinites who are in the wings, still silently suffering.
"I just wish we could get more people speaking out in the media (television and radio shows) about this horrendous diet and scam, and how it has affected them personally. Many were seriously hurt, both physically and emotionally, and those people, for the most part, have found it very difficult to talk about.
I can only hope that there will be a few who will step forward to tell their stories to put a face to the anonymous ex-Kimkinites who are in the wings, still silently suffering."
Word, anonymous!
This cause needs some new blood, willing to tell their stories.
I can't tell you how much it pisses me off that this charlatan cooks up a diet that has ruined the health of so many people.
She is nothing but a piece of shite, playing Russian Roulette with people's lives. She thinks it's fun and gets her jollies from watching other people suffer.
Jesus, Mary & Joseph...she's never done the diet herself! Why? 'Cause she knows she'd starve to death! But has that stopped her from flogging her "diet" and encouraging others to follow it? Noooooooo. Why? Because she's evil and a sicko.
If I met that skank in the street, I'd be tempted to wrap my fingers around her big fat neck and squeeze the livin' bejezus out of her. And ya know what...I'd plea out, sayin' the devil made me do it.
The only thing that's going to stop this slimy, evil piece of work is being sent to the slammer, and that won't happen unless everyone who was harmed by her speaks out and tells their stories.
Someone, anyone, please step up to the plate and get your story out there...the AG, the cops, the FDA, the FTC need to hear from you.
Ever wonder WHY nobody wants to "step up and tell their story?"
Honestly I had never heard of the Kimkin diet scam until today. I just read three blogs in a row talking about it. I didn't know it was such a big controversy. Thanks for your article!
-El Di Pablo
Anonymous says "Ever wonder WHY nobody wants to step up and tell their story?"
Obviously SOME people do want to step up and tell their story, and they have done so.
Hopefully as time goes on and there's more coverage, more of the Survivors will be featured on camera.
"Ever wonder WHY nobody wants to "step up and tell their story?'"
anonymous, I'm going to make an educated guess here and say that the reason is they may still be suffering psychologically and physically from the effects of the Kimkins starvation diet.
They may also feel foolish for having been duped by Heidi Diaz, but they are not alone: 40,000 other people were also duped by Heidi Diaz, and these are smart, savvy people. You see, Heidi is a master con and sociopath, and knows how to manipulate people.
It takes a brave soul to put herself (or himself) out there, but I know amongst the many whose lives have been seriously affected by Kimmer's deception and starvation diet, there are some who are willing and strong enough to tell their story about how this sadistic woman and her starvation diet changed their lives. Their stories will be a clarion call to all those who may be considering starting this deadly diet.
My blog: Medusa
Thanks Mariasol for blogging on the BIG LIE- Lying to the AG of California. ::slaps forehead-Duh::
Medusa get your hammer because I think that will be needed for the final nail in the coffin here.
MagicsMom- You have been my buddy on LCF, posting in the wee hours of the morning like me, and I wanted to tell you how much I appreciation the efforts you have made in helping bring Heidi to justice.
Your letter from the AG may end up being the final blow. Just think how great it will be if what gets the AG to sit-up and take notice is directly related to Heidi lying to them on something as basic as why she banned you. Poetic Justice comes to mind.
Heidi may end up she just gave you a refund Magic, almost as bad as she wished she had given Jeanessa one. :)
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